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Eddie Wilson


Napier Old Boys Marist Rugby Club


12 November 2017

Contents usually include: Old Boys Marist Senior & Junior rugby reports - weekly competition & draw winners - NZ Marist - affiliates Cricket, Netball, Football and Softball seasonal reports - Club Social events  -  News & Views etc etc.

Views and comments in this publication are not necessarily those
of the executive or policy of the Napier Old Boys Marist Rugby Club.


“Team up with a Winning Club in 2017

Napier Old Boys Marist


> Summer of Sevens <

Napier Old Boys Marist Invitational 7’s Tournament

Now a qualifier for the National Club 7’s
(Middlesex Country Wavell Wakefield Cup)

NEXT Saturday 18th November

Get along and catch the ACTION

at Tremain Field

Cup Championship  -  $2500
Runners-up  -  $500  -  Plate Winner  -  $500  -  Bowl Winner  -  $500  -  Shield Winner  -  $400  -  Colts Championship  -  $400
Ellery Wilson  -  0279 649 060   /
Matt Wyatt  -  022 616 4250

  • Usual Bar & Food facilities available
    -  Make a day of it – bring the family -

    Napier Old Boys Marist Invitational 7’s Tournament
    OPEN MENS: Pool A – NOBM, Tawa 1, Norths, Pirates.   Pool B – Southern Sharks,  Central, Upper Hutt, Havelock North.   Pool C – Hastings R&S, Tawa 2, Poneke, MAC.   Pool D – Wellington RFC, Napier Tech, Matamata, Taradale.

    COLTS:  Pool A – NOBM, Waitete, HBHS2, Hastings R&S.   Pool B – NBHS, HBHS 1, Havelock North, Taradale.

    Pool Play
    commences with the opening game kick-off at 7.40am



    Pass the word around  -  Bring your mates 


New Players and school-leavers always Welcome
Your enquiries


‘Team up with Napier Old Boys Marist in 2018’

For all Rugby Matters please contact -

Craig Gowler
Director of Rugby & Premier head coach  -  0272 402 550


Matt Wyatt
Director of Rugby Development  - 
022 616 4250


NOBM Coaching Staff - 2018



Head coach  - Craig Gowler

Assistant  - Steve Bennet

Management  - Greg Lindsey / Todd Donaldson / Tim Jones

Other assistants / advisors tbc by head coach

Premier Development

Head coach  - Sam Williams

Assistant  - Kurt chambers

Management  - TBC


Head coach  - Steve Smithers

Assistant  - Monty Monteith

Management  - Bevan Hanlon / Allan Poy

Other assistant  - TBC




Coaching  - Ellery Wilson / Sam Weber

Management  - Tim Jones/Craig Gowler/ Matt Wyatt




club noticeboard

our  Mission  statement

"To provide a sporting and recreational club for both men and women which encourages both individuals and teams to reach their maximum potential in their chosen sporting club endeavours.
In doing this it
would always be our aim to maintain a fun club spirit, which treats every person equally and which ensures that the club runs on a profitable basis"














Get along and Support the

in aid of the
Relay for Life Fundraiser

Teams of six people ($40 per team)

at the Old Boys Marist Clubrooms
Friday 17th November 
  7.30 – 9.30pm
Usual Bar Facilities available



Clubrooms Hire
for all Functions or Events

In the first instance please contact:
Director of Club Management

- Jamie Beale 
Mobile - 021 0826 5142
Club Bar Manager
- Wade Colville-Smith
 Mobile - 021 059 3943




Get into Napier Old Boys Marist Club Gear
 -  We still have have stocks of our club HOODIES and JACKETS 
for SALE at the Club Bar




See YOU at the Clubrooms -
on  Saturday afternoons
All members and friends Welcome
Join our affiliate codes sportsmen/women – footballers, netballers, cricketers & softballers at the clubrooms.

Call in for a cool TUI or two..... and a game of Pool





we wish to extend thanks to Napier Old Boys Marist Sevens organiser Ellery Wilson along with our director of rugby development Matt Wyatt and other club members for their efforts in coordinating our second annual event tournament.  With sixteen teams entered in the Open Mens and eight in the Colts sections it promises to be another top day of rugby action in the Summer of Sevens season. 

Ellery’s role as a HBRU Rugby Development officer certainly gave us a foot in front in putting this tournament which promises to be another keenly contested days entertainment with from both Hawkes Bay as well as nine sides from around the country entered.  So make sure YOU get over to Tremain Field and Support our own NOBM teams next Saturday.

THAT isn’t this just shades of the Green Machines action at Tremain Field of recent seasons?  Well it is our man Joseph Penitito caught here in action on the rampage on his rugby OE in France with the Beaune Rugby Club.   In Joe’s own words he is loving the footy here and improving every week.  A different style to what I am used to but still happy to be making some experiences abroad.   We look forward to seeing you back in the OBM colours when you’re ready to return mate meanwhile make to most this cultural and rugby change.


THAT a reminder to our players who were presented with Cups at the annual Dinner & Trophy presentation evening could you please returned them back to the clubrooms at  your earliest convenience so we can complete our 2017 display of trophies.  Trophies still to be returned are from Jarrod Travers – Colts.  Sam Miringaorangi, Tim Jones, George Moleli  – Reserves.  Johnny Lauano – Premier.   Morunga Whaanga,  Chris Johnston – Club Awards.                               

just a refresher to our members and readers – to remain a financial member of Napier Old Boys Marist Rugby you needn’t sweat it on paying by the end of the year as was the norm of earlier years.  You still have four months before your payments are required to keep the wolf from our door.  For current paid up members you remain financial through until the 31 March 2018  - Just a Reminder.    And if you aren’t currently a member you will have the opportunity to sign-up in the New Year and your financial support will be welcome as our           Club doesn’t run on fresh air.

a reminder to our readers – If  YOU would like to contribute or offer your comments re rugby, our Club, or send a Letter to the Editor on any matter,  then please feel free to email your contribution to me.  We look forward to your comments and ideas.

THAT in watching error ridden the NZ Maori – French Barbarians match yesterday it was certainly obvious that they should have stuck with the Magpie partnership of Brad Weber – Ihaia West as the inside back combination, as Ruru – Garden-Bachop mixed with the former duo weren’t in the same street which impacted amongst other aspects on the losing game.

THAT were are you aware that the weekly wage bill for the 43 assembled players in the wider All Blacks side in France is $322,500 just to pay the base salaries?

THAT one couldn’t resist making comment on the unfortunate predicament the Samoan team finds themselves as they prepare for their upcoming international against England it’s certainly way out of kilter considering the revenue that the test will generate which is reported to be around 5 million pounds (NZ$9.45m).  With Eddie Jones players due to receive 22,000 pounds (NZ$41,533) each as their match fee while by stark comparison Samoa’s players will pick up a mere 650 pound (NZ$1227) for their efforts.

There is talk in some quarters that the English players may each donate 1000 pounds (NZ1888) from their match fees to their opponents.  That aside in all fairness the apparent non-negotiable revenue sharing in any form by these northern hemisphere unions is a real dog in the manger attitude, the IRB should man up step in and sort this inequity out smartly.  Sure over recent years there has reportedly been some finance mismanagement by the Samoa Rugby Union but the international body should appoint an official administrator to professionally handle Samoa’s funds.  On progress to date it may not be advisable to hold ones breath.

this weeks edition will be also posted as usual on the clubs website -  - add this to your favourites for future reference.   Ed


++++  Don’t regret the things you’ve done, regret the things you didn’t do when you had the chance.


“They are a quality side and it’s almost close to your All Blacks side in Europe”
Springboks coach Allister Coetzee compares the Irish XV to being the AB’s of the northern hemisphere.

“There are scraps to see who sits where on the bus….they’re fighting for every bit of food and every seat they can get.”
AB assistant coach Ian Foster make a light-hearted comment of the 43 players they have in the enlarged touring group.

"We get asked to consider a large number of proposals regularly, and in this case, we were approached over a year ago about the possibility of a hybrid game, other than that initial conversation, there have been no other discussions and this is definitely not something we are pursuing."
NZRU CEO Steve Tew on the Hybrid rugby proposal.

"$50 million? I chuckle at a lot of the media reports I read."
Steve Hansen’s take on this news item.


Test  Your Rugby Knowledge 

This Weeks Poser – Who were runners-up to NOBM Premiers in the 2017 Nash Cup round ?       

Poser 2 -
Who is the billionaire hoping to launch the Indo Pacific Championship due to the Western Force being dumped from the Super Rugby competition

Poser 3
 - Who is the former international player who is reported to coming to NZ to be an assistant coach with the Crusaders ?      

Last Weeks Poser –  Captain of the Barbarians Andy Ellis when did he last play for the All Blacks ?       Answer2015 (vs Samoa)

Poser 2  -  
Who were the Magpie players in the NZ Maoris team vs Canada yesterday ?       Answer – Ash Dixon (capt.), Brad Weber, Ihaia West

Poser 3
 - When are the All Backs due to once again play England ?      Answer – November 2018


All Blacks Northern Tour
5 Nov.  Barbarians 22 All Blacks 31
12 Nov.  France 18 All Blacks 38
Paris  (6.45am NZ)
15 Nov.  France v All Blacks
Lyon  (6.55am  NZ)
19 Nov.  Scotland v All Blacks
Edinburgh  (6.15am  NZ)
26 Nov.  Wales v All Blacks
Cardiff  (6.15am)

NZ Maori
4 Nov.  Canada 9 NZ Maori 51
11 Nov.  French Barbarians 19 NZ Maori 15
Bordeaux  (9am)


And who would want to be an All Black selector ?

It seems every team is permitted to try new combinations and blood new players in relative comfort, except the All Blacks.  After Rugby World Cup 2015, five of our greats retired, taking 584 caps between them. The All Blacks carried on, business as usual. The transition didn’t rock any boats – the All Blacks were still winning, albeit shakily at times.

Injury, sabbatical and life tragedies have meant the All Black juggernaut has been without key players here and there recently. This was evident in the game against Ireland in Chicago in the 2016 Northern Hemisphere Tests and against the Wallabies at Suncorp In Bledisloe III.  If we take a look at the Chicago game, for those that didn’t know the importance of the Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock partnership, this was an awakening.  It’s true, Ireland played a great game of rugby that day and after the last-minute loss in 2012, their eventual win was inevitable. And, dare I say, having a kiwi coach who knows the New Zealand way certainly helped. But the absence of Retallick and Whitelock, in addition to Jerome Kaino playing out of position, certainly increased Ireland’s chances that day.

But what’s a coach to do? Steve Hansen’s selections come under a tremendous amount of scrutiny at home. There’s those who bay for his blood when selections go wrong, and those – maybe even the same ‘those’ – who applaud his vision when things go right.  It’s totally a damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t scenario.

Michael Cheika selected Reece Hodge (23 years old) to replace the unwell Bernard Foley (28 years old) for flyhalf against Japan last weekend.  Some people wondered about Hodge, due to his relative inexperience in that position. He has played flyhalf before, but not at Test level. As a lot of people are fond of saying, club rugby or Super Rugby is one thing, Tests are another.  The reason comes down to two words, the future.

A coach would be remiss not to be trying out new players as we’ve just passed the mid-way point between World Cups.  Players age, players go through form peaks and troughs and players get injured. Out of those three variables, the only one which can be predicted is aging. Therefore, there simply has to be a Plan A and Plan B – perhaps even right through to Plan Z – if a team is going to be competitive when need be.

New Zealanders should be acutely aware of this fact. If the injury to Dan Carter wasn’t enough at the 2011 Rugby World Cup, the subsequent injuries to Colin Slade, and Aaron Cruden, should have been.  Stephen Donald was our fourth player to don the No. 10 jersey. We were lucky to come away with the result we’d been waiting 24 years for, but it could’ve easily gone the other way.

It’s of paramount importance we’re prepared for a similar scenario in Japan as we rest on the laurels of our depth.  We’re proud of our depth – how often do we refer to it in rugby discussions with people from overseas? But what if that depth wears thin?  We have three or four players to cover first-five if Beauden Barrett couldn’t play.  While Lima Sopoaga may be heir apparent, there’s also Damian MacKenzie and Richie Mo’unga. We have a couple of understudies for most positions, but do we have them for them all positions?  If needed, would they slip in as seamlessly as Stephen Donald did in 2011?

It’s a predicament that all coaches face. Nobody wants their team to lose, but everybody wants to see new players entering the fold. There’s the rub – how does a player gain experience at the elite level if they don’t get game time?  They don’t.  Coaches have to decide which games are the right ones to give the new boys a go and Rugby World Cup quarter-finals,  semifinals  and finals just aren’t it!



New Zealand Marist Rugby Federation
An organization initiated to promote and foster a spirit of union, co-operation and close friendly relations between all Marist and similar rugby union football clubs in New Zealand, Australasia and the Pacific.

Successful unbeaten Tour
> > > 2017 NZ Marist Colts Tour (Bay of Plenty-Waikato regions) – 18-27 August
Vs. Te Awamutu Marist XV  won 29-15 ,   Greerton Marist XV won 26-10,   Rotorua St Michaels XV won 29-15,   NZ Harlequins U21 XV won 51-15

NZ Marist Senior XV  vs  NZRU Heartland XV  -  Timaru  -  4 November  2017  - lost 39-41
> 2018 South Island Marist Tournament – Venue and date to be confirmed
> 2018 – 87th Spillane TournamentAuckland – date to be confirmed
> 2018 NZ Marist Colts Tour (Timaru, Oamaru, Dunedin, Invercargill)

>>>  <<<
Check out the NZ Marist website -




Saturday 11 November

Prems  - played Taradale in a T20 on Friday. We won the toss and put Taradale into bat & got 134.  Prems won!  Nihal top scoring with 50*

NOBM Big Barrel  - played Taradale at Nelson Park, won the toss & batted first & got 222/5 Crewe Meyer 68* Bevin Pollock 45.

Taradale were 72/6 when weather ended the game and Taradale admitted defeat. 

NOBM Hobblers  - played Taradale at Taradale Park, won the toss and bowled first. Taradale got 220/6.

Hobblers chased it down with three wickets in hand. Mason 62, Simon Crater 89.

Back at the Clubrooms
- Downeys meatpacks  went to Wade, Shame & Tari

  • A Frame  won the Bill Reilly draw and  Zoe Walklin  won the Sideline Bar draw.

    at the Clubrooms on Friday  24th November – Opening at 7pm for 7.30pm ‘kick-off’
    $10 person – Teams of 6
    >>> Enter your team by contacting Andrew  - 021 102 4990
    All Welcome

    Patron – John O’Shaughnessy    President – Dave Herrick 
     Secretary – Andrew Frame   Treasurer – James McCorkindale   Auditor – David Pearson   Club Captain/Development Officer – to be appointed  
    Committee: Del Whyte,  Matthew Sinclair,  Glen Walklin,  Daniel Whyte,  Tony Sheriff,  Gary Leah,  Abby Burrows,  Calim Leathard  - plus Club Coach and Team Captains.

    The new Cricket season is now underway

    Pass the word around  -  See You There

    For all Cricket Info please contact:
    - Secretary - Andrew Frame   ph.843 7701 H  /  021 102 4990  -
    or  Del Whyte – 021 705 030  -

    “New Players Welcome to Team up with us for the 2017-18 Season


    Contacts:  Club Chairman: Craig Smith.    Secretary: Abby Whitley - 027 8450 735  -
    Club Contact: Dianne de Lautour - 027 240 3235
    “New Players Welcome to Team up with us for the 2017/18 season



    NOBM Junior Rugby Committee

    Bevan Condin (Chairman), Jason Evans (Convenyor), Hayley Ceselli (Secretary),

    Waka Petera, Dave Walls, Rochelle Williams, Steve Eustance and Rachel Bentley.

    IMPORTANT - We really want as many people registering online to avoid pre-registration nights.


    For further Junior Rugby Info please contact > Bevan Condin  (021) 160 5118   or   Hayley Ceselli  (021) 765 701
    “New Players Welcome to Team up with us in 2018”


    EHM Netball 

    Like us on facebook to keep up to date with all the happenings.

    For any further info about anything to do with netball contact one of the following
    President – Michelle Drinkrow   0274273137  -
    Secretary/Treasurer – Jacqui Gardiner   0272398204  -
    Club Captain – Loren White  -
    Social director – Teech Christie  -
    Gear custodian – Jo Exeter   0276227607  -
    Other committee members include Nicolette Walker and Victoria Anderson

    'Team up with Napier ExHigh Marist Netball in 2018'


    Thanks to our clubs major sponsors -
    Alexander Electric  -  Red Steel  -  Tamatea Pak n Save.

    Next season we will  have more opportunities to sponsor our junior teams or other senior teams so please contact Kevin Murphy 027 297 0238 if you want to discuss how your business can be part of the clubs exciting 2018 year.
    >>> For all Napier Marist Football info please contact - Kevin Murphy  -  0272 970 238 
    -    /

    New Players Welcome to Team up with us in 2018

    Leprauchan Comments

    Shaun Murphy was sitting in his favourite Irish bar staring at his drink when a large, trouble-making biker steps up next to him, grabs his drink and gulps it down in one swig.
    "Well, whatcha gonna do about it?" he says menacingly, as Shaun burst into tears.

    "This is the worst day of my life" he says. "I was late to a meeting and my boss fired me. When I went to the car park, I found my car had been stolen and I don’t have any insurance. I left my wallet in the cab I took home. I found my wife with another man and then my dog bit me."

    "So I came to this bar to work up the courage to end it all, I buy a drink, I drop a capsule in and sit here watching the poison dissolve; then you show up and drink the whole thing!!”

    “But...enough about me, how's your day going?!"


    David staggered home very late after another evening with his drinking buddy, Paddy.   He took off his shoes to avoid waking his wife, Kathleen. 

    He tiptoed as quietly as he could toward the stairs leading to their upstairs bedroom, but misjudged the bottom step.   As he caught himself by grabbing the banister, his body swung around and he landed heavily on his rump.   A whiskey bottle in each back pocket broke and made the landing especially painful. 

    Managing not to yell, David sprung up, pulled down his pants, and looked in the hall mirror to see that his butt cheeks were cut and bleeding.   He managed to quietly find a full box of Band-Aids and began putting a Band-Aid as best he could on each place he saw blood..

    He then hid the now almost empty Band-Aid box and shuffled and stumbled his way to bed. 

    In the morning, David woke up with searing pain in both his head and butt and Kathleen staring at him from across the room. 

    She said, 'You were drunk again last night weren't you?'

    David said, 'Why you say such a mean thing?'

    'Well,' Kathleen said, 'it could be the open front door, it could be the broken glass at the bottom of the stairs, it could be the drops of blood trailing through the house, it could be your bloodshot eyes, but mostly ........ it's all those Band-Aids stuck on the hall mirror.

    We look forward to seeing all rugby players, footballers, netballers, cricketers and softballers and friends at the clubrooms each Saturday  -  Pop in for cool Tui or two  - Also bring along your mates for an Ale and a chat. 
    All members and Friends Welcome
    ............. Ed

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